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Dec 9 17

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

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The latest release from TheGenealogist team this week:

Queen Mary 1936 from TheGenealogist Image Archive

Queen Mary 1936 from TheGenealogist’s Image Archive

TheGenealogist has just released over 2.7 million BT27 records for the 1930s. These Outbound Passenger Lists are part of an expanding immigration and emigration record set on TheGenealogist that feature the historical records of passengers who sailed out of United Kingdom ports in the years between 1930 and 1939. With the release of this decade of records, the already strong Immigration, Emigration, Naturalisation and passenger list resources on TheGenealogist have been expanded again.  

The fully searchable BT27 records from The National Archives released today will allow researchers to:

  • Discover potential family members travelling together using TheGenealogist’s SmartSearch. This unique system is able to recognise family members together on the same voyage. In this situation it will display a family icon which allows you to view the entire family with one click.
  • Find people travelling to America, Canada, India, New Zealand, Australia and elsewhere in the Passenger lists of people departing by sea from the United Kingdom.
  • View images of the original passenger list documents that had been kept by the Board of Trade’s Commercial and Statistical Department and its successors.
  • Discover the ages, last address and where the passenger intended to make their permanent residence.
  • These fully indexed records allow family historians to search by name, year, country of departure, country of arrival, port of embarkation and port of destination.

Those with ancestors who sailed from Britain in the 1930’s will welcome this fascinating new release from TheGenealogist, which adds to their current Emigration records, now totalling over 19 million and dating back to 1896.

 

See their article: https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/featuredarticles/2017/passenger-lists-from-the-1930s-record-the-voyages-of-our-ancestors-699/

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Dec 3 17

Check the source of information on your ancestors

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

Ancestors Devon Wedding

 

It is so easy to go to another person’s online family tree and just copy the details without questioning if they are correct, because they share some of the same ancestors with you.

We all know that we shouldn’t do this and yet many people still do!

 

I spotted a public family tree on one of the big genealogy sites that had been put together by a ‘cousin’, though I was not aware of them before coming across their tree. My excitement was tempered, however, when I noted that they had attached the wrong person as a spouse of one of the ancestors that I had already included in my own tree.

I had, perhaps, benefited from better family intelligence than they had as to who the married couple had been. This was as a result of the ancestors in question having been included in family stories that I had heard as a child.

 

Seeing a glaring mistake in a published tree shows us that, as we get further away from what we know as a fact (or have a certain amount of confidence about), then we really have to investigate the sources that have been attached to people in another person’s family tree.

Sometimes, however, even this isn’t enough to ensure that we get the correct details in our tree. If the source that we are relying upon is wrong then we can end up adding incorrect material that, on the face of it, looks to be valuable because it includes a cited source.

Nick Thorne 'The Nosey Genealogist' researching for FamilyHistoryResearcher.com

This week I found myself checking some information and looking for a marriage from before 1837 when civil registration began in England & Wales. The only source I could find online was in a Pallot’s Marriage Index on Ancestry. The parish register has yet to been scanned and made available on any of the main genealogy sites, plus there wasn’t even a transcript for this parish to be found.

The first revelation that I discovered from looking at the Pallot’s Index was that when the subject married a known ancestor of mine, she had been a widow. Thus what others had claimed was her maiden name turned out to be her first husband’s surname. This then undoes their next claim that she was born in Ireland on a certain date with the surname that had been assumed to be hers at birth. The other researcher had, unfortunately, made 2+2=5.

I then went searching for her first marriage. The most likely one in Pallot’s is, however, called into question by other transcribed records that put the marriage a full ten years earlier. It would seem that 1828 looked very much like 1818 on the Pallot’s card.

So beware of believing what others claim and always check out their sources. If they haven’t even got a source, then be doubly sceptical of the lead and do your own searches to see if you can find the proof of their claim.

My research this week has also revealed that even cited sources can be called into question. I will have to go back to basics and either, on my next visit to Portsmouth pop along to the Record Office to see the microfilm copies of the register, or take a trip to a LDS Family History Centre to call up the image that I need.

Portsmouth Library and History Centre

Portsmouth Library and History Centre

 

 

 

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Nov 24 17

Major New Resource: The 1910 Lloyd George Domesday Records with annotated maps

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

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I’ve been very lucky to have had advance access to what promises to be a fantastic new resource for family historians.

My preview was granted so that I could write an article on The 1910 Lloyd George Domesday Survey which you can read here.

This week the initial tranche has been released, as you can see from the press anouncement that follows. 

 

TheGenealogist has released the first part of an exciting new record set, The Lloyd George Domesday Survey – a major new release that will find where an ancestor lived in 1910. This unique combination of maps and residential data, held by The National Archives and being digitised by TheGenealogist, can precisely locate your ancestor’s house on large scale (5 feet to the mile) hand annotated maps that plots the exact property.

Lloyd George Domesday

Geo Bone a Coroner’s Officer lived at 12 Kennett Road in 1910.
The area has now been redeveloped and the road name reused further north in a new realigned thoroughfare.

 

Researchers often can’t find where ancestors lived as road names changed over time, the Blitz saw areas bombed to destruction, developers changed sites out of all resemblance from what had stood there before and lanes and roads were extinguished to build estates and office blocks. All this means that searching for where an ancestor lived using a website linked to modern maps can be frustrating when they fail to pinpoint where the old properties had once been.

  • TheGenealogist’s new release will link individual properties to extremely detailed ordnance survey maps used in 1910
  • Locate an address found in a census or street directory down to a specific house
  • Fully searchable by name, county, parish and street.
  • The maps will zoom down to show the individual properties as they existed in 1910

 

IR91 Index book

IR91 Index Book © TheGenealogist © Crown copyright images reproduced courtesy of The National Archives, London, England

Complementing the maps on TheGenealogist are the accompanying books that will also provide researchers with basic information relative to the valuation of each property, including the valuation assessment number, map reference, owner, occupier, situation, description and extent.

This mammoth project begins with the first release of the IR91 Index with subsequent releases of the more detailed IR58 Field Books planned. There are over 94,500 Field Books, each having hundreds of pages to digitise with associated large scale IR121 annotated OS maps.

The initial release from TheGenealogist is for the City of London and Paddington maps with their index records. Future releases will expand out across the country with cross linked maps wherever they are available.

Find out more at: TheGenealogist.co.uk/1910Survey/

Mark Bayley, Head of Development at TheGenealogist says:

“With our English & Welsh Tithe Map collection, we’ve become known for our map based records and this new collection makes a fantastic later addition. The maps show an incredible amount of detail, allowing you to zoom right in on the hand annotated property. The records that go with these maps are just as detailed, allowing you to find out all manner of information about your ancestral home.”

The National Archives issued the following statement:

“The Lloyd George ‘Domesday Records’ form essentially a census of property for Edwardian England and Wales. The innovative linking of individually searchable property data with associated annotated Ordnance Survey maps will be of huge value to family and local historians alike.”

To find out more about these records, you can visit our informative record collection page at:  TheGenealogist.co.uk/1910Survey/

 

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Nov 19 17

Two people with the same name – so which is my ancestor?

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

Case study: Two people of the same name, age and living in the same place!

Ellen Malser Thorne

Ellen Malser Thorne

I was looking a bit closer at some of my own ancestors for a change today. Normally I am so involved in researching for other people that I can be accused of neglecting my own family tree. But with a bit of time to myself I decided to take a look again at a branch that had an unresolved question. One that I really needed to sort out, as I last wrote about her in a post back in 2012!

In Victorian Portsmouth I have a marriage of a lady in 1859 into my paternal line with the bride, Ellen Malser, being from Portsea and the groom, Henry Thomas Thorn, from Devon.

In the census of 1861 my 2x great grandmother was aged 28, so suggesting a birth year of 1833. In other census her age points to being born in 1833 or 1834 and confusingly there is another Ellen Malser also living in Portsea Island in the 1851 census who is also born in 1833.

One is the daughter of James and Martha Malser, while the other is the daughter of John and Rosanna Malser. Both James and John are Mariners to add to the confusion.

Probably the two Ellens were cousins. But which one should I have been researching so as to include in my family tree as my great-great grandmother?

 

First Principle: Don’t use only one set of records

To resolve this conundrum I have, of course, to look at some other records to understand more about my Ellen. I turned first to see if I could find the marriage of my great great grandparents and discovered it in the records for Portsea.

Seeking out the image of the parish record held at the Portsmouth Library and History Centre I can see that Ellen Malser married Henry Thomas Thorn in February 1859. Ellen stated at the time that her father is James Malser, a Master Mariner.

Now this record provides her father’s name to add to my tree.

 

Portsmouth Library and History Centre

Portsmouth Library and History Centre

 

Two brides or one marrying twice?

A few years earlier, in 1856, an Ellen Malser married a William Bernthall. At first I had to consider if this was the other Ellen Malser, or had my great grandmother been previously married before she wed Henry?

By turning to an image of the actual marriage in 1859, from the documents in the record office, I can see that she is noted to be a spinster. Taking that information away now points to the earlier marriage being for the other Ellen Malser and illustrates why a look at the original document (or an image of it) can be of great benefit to a family history researcher.

 

Baptism record provides alternative date to the census

From here I now wanted to find Ellen’s birth or baptism, so with the knowledge that she was the daughter of James and Martha I found that the Hampshire Genealogical Society had transcribed a baptism in St. Thomas church, Portsmouth on the 27th May 1832.

Despite the year being earlier than that recorded on the various census, the fact that it reveals that her father, James, was a Mariner and lived in East Street gave me confidence that this indeed was the right woman.

I had already found the Malser family in East Street in the 1841 census where Ellen and her three sisters lived. The other family of Malsers were in another street.

 

When someone vanishes: follow collateral lines

In 1851, however, James and Martha Malser and children seem to disappear. Ellen is now a servant in a house in Portsea Island but her 14 year old sister, Rosanna is still living in East Street. The difference is that only her 70 year old grandfather, Jas Malser is recorded in the household.

With this additional information, at least, I now have a lead to get the family another generation back, as he had not been under the same roof in the earlier count – but now I wondered why the girls parents were not in the 1851 census?

Checking for deaths I have now found that the younger James (their father) had died in 1845 aged 43 and so I have just ordered a pdf death certificate from the General Register Office (GRO).

Where their mother had gone at this stage I have yet to discover. I do know that she ends her days as a patient in the Portsea Workhouse in 1870 aged 70 from a death record obtained from the GRO.

The older James (Jas) Malser is also recorded as being a Mariner in the census, as had been his son, and Jas’s place of birth is Hythe in Hampshire.

Society of Genealogists

Searching at the Society of Genealogists I came across the Trinity House petitions, though they are also at The Guildhall Library in London, and these records can be used to sometimes find a mariner before 1835.

The Corporation of Trinity House was a guild that assisted mariners and their families should they fall on hard times. By the 19th century the guild was awarding pensions to mariners and housing others in almshouses. To receive help mariners had to submit a petition to the Corporation of Trinity House and we are lucky that these survive from 1787 to 1854.

There are two petitions for the name Malser, one in 1822 for a Thomas Malser aged 75 in the Parish of Hythe and another for James Allen Malser, aged 73 in 1851 at… East Street, Portsmouth. This second one is, presumably, Ellen and Rossanna’s grandfather and the first in Hythe, where James had been born, could be their great grandfather (or another relative) bearing in mind the 29 years between the two petitions to Trinity House. I will have to do more research on this new line of inquiry.

The result of using other records and not just relying on a superficial scan of the census, that many are tempted to be happy with, means that I am more certain of which particular Ellen Malser to claim into my family tree. I was also able to then go on to gather leads to get me back another generation, but time has run out and this further research will have to wait for another day!

 

 

I am hoping that this case study has demonstrated why people, who are new to family history research, should try hard to discover what other records are available to help them find their elusive ancestors.

 

Post Script: On my last visit to Portsmouth I went to the area that now houses the Ben Ainslie Racing HQ. It turns out that this was where East Street once stood, but it has long since been flattened!

Old Portsmouth

Old Portsmouth with the BAR HQ in the distance on the left

Broad Street, Portsmouth,

Broad Street, Portsmouth, off which ran East Street

 

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Nov 11 17

Armistice day and TheGenealogist adds another 15,000 names from 53 new War Memorials

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

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At the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month 1918 the guns fell silent.

 

 

In time for Armistice day TheGenealogist has added to their War Memorial records on the website so that there are now over 383,000 fully searchable records.

This latest release includes war memorials from Worcestershire and South Yorkshire as well as some further monuments from Australia,Canada, London and various other British counties. A more unusual one added in this release is from Olds, in Alberta, Canada – the memorial is a Sherman tank!

War Memorial Olds in Alberta Canada

War Memorial at Olds, Alberta in Canada newly added to TheGenealogist

 

Fully searchable by name, researchers can read transcriptions and see images of the dedications that commemorate soldiers who have fallen in the Boer War, WW1 and various other conflicts.

These new records are available as part of the Diamond Subscription at TheGenealogist.

 

 

Read the fascinating article on War Memorials: The neglected Sheffield soldier finally recognised, at:

War Memorials – The Neglected Sheffield Soldier

 

 

 

 

 

 

By Philip Stevens (Own work) [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons

‘At the going down of the sun and in the morning. We will remember them.’

 

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Nov 5 17

Tracing back to an English or Welsh ancestor.

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

This post is going to be mainly of interest to beginners, or those who are just starting to investigate their ancestral line that has taken them back to England or Wales from elsewhere.

 

 

Many British people emigrated to start new lives in North America, Australia, New Zealand and other parts of the world.

Perhaps you have discovered that your ancestral trail has now led you to this particular part of Britain and you are now wondering how to find your English or Welsh records?

Some of you may have had ancestors who sailed away from England and Wales to start a new life beyond the seas, or indeed, even in Scotland or Ireland.

Perhaps you have traced your family tree back in your own, or another country, until you have found an English or Welsh immigrant who left before 1837, the beginning of Queen Victoria’s reign.

If this is the case then you will not be able to make a great deal of use of the English/Welsh census collections, or of the civil registration indexes to order birth marriage or death certificates for your ancestors. These records begin in Victorian times.

But that does not mean that all is lost, as before this time the Established church (Church of England) acted as an arm of local government and was charged with keeping records of the populace.

Before 1837, baptisms, marriages and burials were kept in local registers maintained by the local parish church and also by some of the nonconformist churches.

Baptismal font St. Saviours, Dartmouth, Devon, UK.

Baptismal font St. Saviours, Dartmouth, Devon, UK.

Many researchers, looking for their ancestors from the British Isles, find that there is a whole lot of information out there on the web for the years back until they reach 1837. Then it just seems to get harder for us with English and Welsh ancestors.

1837 is the year when civil registration started in England & Wales, with the state taking over from the established church the registering of vital records.

You may have been amazed at the ease with which you had found later records of your ancestors on the subscription websites. But then, as you go back before the census records and the government run data for Births, Deaths and Marriages, you will have found that not all of the genealogical records that there actually are have made it on to the internet. Now this situation is getting better all the time with new Parish Record data sets being uploaded to the various big genealogical subscription sites.

As a rule, most original Parish Records can be found in the relevant County Record office for your ancestor’s parish, or in a few cases the incumbent minister may still have retained them at the parish church (if the books are not yet full).

You need to firstly establish where in the country your ancestor came from. A family bible or some other document may point you to a particular part of England or Wales. Look for town and the county that they were born or lived in, as you will need this information in your research. If you can narrow it down to a parish then you are off and running!

 

Assuming that you have found out which county your forebears lived in, how do you decide which parish your ancestors may have been in?

Well this is the value of getting hold of Parish maps for the relevant counties that you are researching. These maps will not only show the boundaries of each parish, but also those of the adjacent parishes, which can be extremely useful for tracking those ancestors who tended to move about!

Phillimore’s Atlas (The Phillimore Atlas and Index of Parish Registers) is the go to resource. Many libraries will have a copy of this or you can find it online at amazon.

The Phillimore Atlas & Index of Parish Registers

 

Parish Registers.

These records are fantastic for family historians to use as recorded in the ancient pages of church registers are millions of people who we would simply never have been able to find where it not for the existence of these parish documents.

We all need to say thanks to the many clergy and parish clerks who had dutifully but, perhaps grudgingly, spent time writing up these entries and recording the precious information on their parishioners as they came to church to baptise their young, marry each other and bury their dead. Yes it was set down in law that they should so do, but we still should thank them for it!

Apparently, until the late 15th century only a small number of people were even remotely interested in the recording of births, baptisms, marriages and deaths.

Those that were would have been mostly from the landed classes of the gentry and the aristocracy for whom knowledge of family descent and line was important. Their interest stemming from having information to do with the inheritance of and the passing on of their land. Who should inherit property meant that the matter of legitimacy needed to be considered by the great and the good!

For the rest of society there was little need for this information, in light of church teaching that people were individually insignificant in God’s Creation. But come the end of the Middle ages, things changed.

The Church became occupied with the blood relationships between parties at a marriage. Marriage between relatives (even those related to you spiritually – such as your godparents) was forbidden by the Church. Certainly it had become most useful to know who you were related to and it was evidently most important for the Church to be able to have this information.

We can thank King Henry VIII’s Chief Minister Thomas Cromwell for requiring English parishes to keep a register from 1538, though many of these early records have been lost to us.

Most of those later ones that have survived are now housed in local diocesan archives, very often at a local County Record Office. Some diocesan archives may be in a neighbouring repository when the dioceses spans more than one county – so watch out for that in your searches!

As is always the case in family history research, you are advised to check the originals, or at least try to look at the microfiche or film copies of originals if you can.

We are lucky in that some of the parish records are being released online, but there are still areas that require a trip to the local County Record Office as not everything is digitised yet – as I found out recently when looking for one of my ancestors from Berkshire!

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Oct 29 17

Newly Released: English & Welsh Family History Mini-Video-Course

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

The Family History Researcher Academy has just added a FREE video mini-course for those searching for English or Welsh ancestors to FamilyHistoryResearcher.com

The short video tutorials deal with some of the mistakes that researchers sometimes make when they are looking for their English or Welsh ancestors in census and birth records. The mini-course also sets out some of the places that you could research for your elusive ancestors in and also sets out how to best begin the search of these British records. While the videos encourage viewers to go on to the more detailed written course, the mini-course stands alone in offering some very useful information.

These concise videos and the more in-depth downloadable pdf Family History Researcher Academy English/Welsh family history course were complied by Nick Thorne from his experience of researching ancestors for private clients and working with one of the leading British genealogical research websites for whom he writes case study articles for publication in several of the U.K. family history magazines. He is also the author of this blog “Help Me With My Family Tree” under the pen name of The Nosey Genealogist.

These FREE videos are available now at: www.familyhistoryresearcher.com/free-video-course

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Oct 29 17

TheGenealogist adds to its expanding collection of Parish Records

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

 

 

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TheGenealogist has made available some new records this week for those of us that are researching ancestors in the parish records. The following is their press release that gives you more information on the new release that is joining an already huge number of other counties whose parish records are searchable on this website.

Nuneaton Chilvers Coton Church

TheGenealogist has added over 140,000 individuals to their Parish Records for Worcestershire and Warwickshire to increase the coverage of these midland counties.

Released in association with Malvern Family History Society and the Nuneaton & North Warwickshire Family History Society, this is an ongoing project to make available high quality transcripts to family history researchers.

  • 97,841 individuals have been added to the Worcestershire baptism records

  • 44,250 individuals join the Warwickshire baptism records

These new records can be used to find your ancestors’ baptisms, in fully searchable records that cover parishes from this area of England. With records that reach back to the mid 16th century, this release allows family historians to find the names of ancestors, their parents’ forenames, the father’s occupation (where noted), and the parish that the event took place at.

This is an ongoing project where family history societies transcribe records for their areas to be released on both TheGenealogist and FHS-Online, the website that brings together data from various Family History Societies across the UK while providing a much needed extra source of funds for societies.

These new records are available as part of the Diamond Subscription at TheGenealogist.

TheGenealogist logo

If your society is interested in publishing records online, please contact Mark Bayley on 01722 717002 or see fhs-online.co.uk/about.php

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Oct 22 17

Find out how your ancestors’ lived

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

Nick Thorne 'The Nosey Genealogist' researching for FamilyHistoryResearcher.com

Discovering more about your ancestry

 

The most satisfying part of family history for me is when I can take some facts, that I have learnt from examining primary records, and then go and see where they took place.

This is often simplest for a baptism, wedding or funeral where the church remains standing to this day. Finding that my ancestor married and then had their child christened in a particular place may cause me to seek it out and lightly touch the font in a salute to my forebears who had gathered around it to watch the clergyman pour water over my ancestor’s head.

 

Baptismal font St. Saviours, Dartmouth, Devon, UK.

Baptismal font St. Saviours, Dartmouth, Devon, UK.

When I find out what an ancestor did for a living can equally have me making a trip to the place where they worked. This can be successful where, as in the case of a man who worked in the Royal Naval dockyards at Portsmouth, the buildings are still there and can be visited as a tourist attraction.

Boatbuilding

 

But it can also be disappointing when all trace of the former landscape has been obliterated by modern development on the site, as in the case of others of my ancestors’ places of employment – not to mention some of their homes.

What I like to do in this case is to see if I can make a visit to a museum that reflects the life of such an ancestor.

 

A visit to properties owned by The National Trust can reveal how your ancestors lived

 

Another excursion that I find useful is to visit several of The National Trust properties.

Hold on! I can hear people saying.

Surely the stately homes are only of interest to those who have aristocratic ancestors?

Well what about those of us that have identified ancestors that worked as staff for the ‘big house’? Some houses allow you to see ‘below stairs’, as well as the fine rooms up above.

 

For those of us that have found ancestors that had to enter the workhouse then a visit to The National Trust’s fine example at Southwell, that I have written about before in a post about workhouse ancestors.

On a recent visit to Birmingham I was able to take a tour around The National Trust’s Back to Back houses. These guided tours take you around the carefully restored, atmospheric 19th-century courtyard of working people’s houses.

These homes had windows only on one side as they were built, as the name implies, back to back with each other. To the rear was a courtyard that also housed the laundry and the outside toilets for up to 60 people to use!

 

What is fascinating, for family historians, is that the first house is dressed to reflect the 1840s. With tallow candles for light, no running water – requiring the teenage daughter to walk ten minutes to the nearest well pump carrying heavy wooden buckets. In this the house of a jeweller and his family we can get an idea of what life was like at the time of the 1841 census for working people that had moved to the cities to find a living.

See what ancestors living in the Back to Back  court housing

Another of the houses reflected the 1870s and although they now used oil lamps and had a communal tap in the courtyard,  and the outside privy now flushed rather than being an earth closet relying on the night soil men to carry away the human waste, times were still hard.

Upstairs the four sons slept ‘top and tail’ in a bed. A rough curtain slung across a rope divided the room so that another bed could be rented out to a lodger.

As if this lack of privacy was not enough, in the 1871 census it seems to identify that the house had a second lodger. The suggestion is that the male and female lodgers may well have been ‘hot bedding’ where one person has the use of the bed for the day, while the other for the night!

 

Theses types of windows into our past can really make us think about how our ancestors lived. It also brings home how rich we are now in the Western world that we are fascinated by the hardships of everyday life that our forebears simply took as normal. By using the records that are available to us and then relating them to conditions, that we can learn from studying the social history, enables us to build a better family story.

 

You can learn where to find the records that reveal your ancestors’ lives by taking the English/Welsh family history course. Read more here:

www.FamilyHistoryResearcher.com/course

 

 

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Oct 13 17

Search for ancestors that served in the British Military

by Nick Thorne, The Nosey Genealogist

 

 

Disclosure: Please note this post contains affiliate links.

 

TheGenealogist has released some useful records this week for those of us that are researching our military ancestors. The following is their press release that gives you more information and a link to a fascinating article about the British Army:

Military Records on TheGenealogist

TheGenealogist is pleased to announce it has added two new record sets that will be useful for researching the First World War and Victorian soldiers.

  • Part one of this release is The Worldwide Army Index for 1851, 1861 and 1871 which adds another name rich resource to the already vast Military record collections at TheGenealogist with over 600,000 records
  • Also released at the same time is another 3,368 pages from The Illustrated War News covering 6 September 1916 to 10 April 1918 and adding to those previously made available for this First World War paper from 1914 to 1916

The Worldwide Army Index for 1851, 1861 and 1871

If you have not found your ancestor in the various British census returns, and you know that they may have been serving at the time in the British Army, then this new release from TheGenealogist may help you to find these elusive subjects.

Many thousands of men of the British Army were serving overseas in far flung parts of the British Empire over the 1800s. This index of names is compiled from the musters contained in the WO 10-11-12 Series of War Office Paylists, held at the National Archives, Kew. The 1851, 1861 and 1871 Worldwide Army Index lists all officers* and other ranks serving in the first quarter of 1851 and second quarter of 1861 and 1871, together with their regimental HQ location. The index is, therefore, effectively a military surrogate for the relevant census.

Over 70,000 records have extra notes that can indicate whether a soldier was a recruit awaiting transfer to a regiment, detached from his regiment or attached to another, possibly discharged, on leave, had deserted or retired. Men identified as using aliases are also included. Many notes include a place of birth and former occupation.

Also included within the records are recruits, boy soldiers, bandsmen and civilians working in the armed forces as clerks, pension recruiters, teachers and suchlike. Colonial regiments which invariably had numbers of British subjects are also featured.

The Illustrated War News was a weekly magazine during the First World War, published by The Illustrated London News and Sketch Ltd. of London. The IWN publication contained illustrated reports related entirely to the war and comprised articles, photographs, diagrams and maps. From 1916 it was issued as a 40-page publication in portrait format, having been landscape prior to this. It claimed to have the largest number of artist-correspondents reporting on the progress of the war until it ceased publication in 1918.

To search these and many other records go to: https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/search/advanced/military/muster-book-pay-list/

or read our article at: https://www.thegenealogist.co.uk/featuredarticles/2017/worldwide-army-index-1851-1861–1871-661/  

*While the 1851 and 1871 include officers, the 1861 index excludes officers as they were not mustered in all the Paylists.

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